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== Flying the Mi-8MTV2 == | == Flying the Mi-8MTV2 == | ||
Flying the Mi-8MTV2 can be summed up in three letters: R, P, and M. This <del>little bird</del> bus lives or dies by the pilot's ability to maintain a steady high RPM by not asking the engine to do too much at the same time. The | Flying the Mi-8MTV2 can be summed up in three letters: R, P, and M. This <del>little bird</del> bus lives or dies by the pilot's ability to maintain a steady high RPM by not asking the engine to do too much at the same time. The two TV3 engines can deliver a lot of power but will require time to do so, and will drop RPM if they get behind the curve. Dropped RPM, in turn, means a loss of electric power from the generators, and a loss of lift from the rotors. | ||
This loss of electricity (and consequently of powered pilot aids) and the loss of lift will easily combine into a very disorganised ride down, but the aircraft can usually power out of it if enough speed, altitude, or just plain old ''time'' is available for the engine to sort itself out. Unfortunately, such a loss of RPM usually originates from the simultaneous and numerous high demands that come from take-offs and landings — situations where speed and altitude are low, and you do not have a whole lot of time until the trees grow uncomfortably large outside the cockpit windows. | |||
The upside is that the Mi-8MTV2 is most commonly employed from airfields where it can employ running take-offs and landings. This means it can build up speed (or not slow down) while also having to worry about maintaining altitude, which bypasses the whole problem almost entirely. Even when low speed or hover transitions are required, the airframe will give ample warning that things are about to require extra attention. It goes through a period of significant and noisy cockpit shudders at around the 80km/h IAS mark as it starts to lose translational lift — this is an unmistakable signal that some proper RPM management is required. | |||
=== Cockpit overview === | === Cockpit overview === | ||
[[File:Mi8-OverheadPanel.jpg|800px|frameless|Mi-8MTV2 Overhead Panel]] | [[File:Mi8-OverheadPanel.jpg|800px|frameless|Mi-8MTV2 Overhead Panel]] | ||
[[File:Mi8-FrontDash.jpg|800px|frameless|Mi-8MTV2 Dashboards]] | [[File:Mi8-FrontDash.jpg|800px|frameless|Mi-8MTV2 Dashboards]] | ||
The first thing that usually strikes a new pilot stepping into the Mi-8MTV2 cockpit is that someone seems to have shotgunned the ceiling with circuit-braker switches — indeed, any time anyone talks about this module, it is likely the first thing that will come up. | |||
In spite of that first impression and reputation, however, the Mi-8MTV's cockpit is very well-organised and sensibly laid out. The infamous CB:s are clustered in clear groups, and the pilot, co-pilot, and flight engineer have direct and easy access to the things they should be dealing with: the pilot controls the flight instruments and the sling-loading; the co-pilot handles navigation and communication; the flight engineer monitors engines and electrics from the centre console and the side consoles. Most of those imposing rows of switches are flipped en masse at the very beginning of the start-up procedure and then never touched again. | |||
[[File:Mi8-LeftPanel.jpg|800px|frameless|Mi-8MTV2 Left panel]] | [[File:Mi8-LeftPanel.jpg|800px|frameless|Mi-8MTV2 Left panel]] | ||
[[File:Mi8-RightPanel.jpg|800px|frameless|Mi-8MTV2 Right panel]] | [[File:Mi8-RightPanel.jpg|800px|frameless|Mi-8MTV2 Right panel]] | ||
The one major exception is the employment of weapon systems, which is… a mess. The controls for them are still grouped, of sorts, but are still spread out to the point where all three crew members have to get involved before anything aggressive goes flying down-range. The co-pilot has to decide which pylons get the firing signal. The engineer has to make sure the systems are powered. The pilot has to select the appropriate system to fire, and set it up in a less than transparent way. | |||
=== Getting into the air === | === Getting into the air === |
Revision as of 18:17, 6 July 2018
Take your average inner-city commuter bus. Now strap two honking great engines and an even greater and more honking rotor to it. Then strap rockets to it. No, more rockets. Oh, and go to your local CB:s-Я-Us switch wholesaler and buy out their entire stock to use as interior decoration. Congratulations, you now have yourself an Mi-8MTV2 — the not-yet-militarised version of the Mi-17 Hip, and one of the most common helicopters in the entire world.
In the DCS world, it is not quite as common because it is, after all, simply a very large transport helicopter that you just so happen to be able to strap some weapons pods onto. The bus comparison is a bit unfair — the Mi-8MTV2 can be a surprisingly fast and agile helicopter — but the engine and rotors that gives it that speed and agility are work horses. They are built to haul heavy loads over long distances, not to duck and weave in tight spaces, and they are slow to respond to throttle and collective inputs. The simile is more that of a 1500+ Hp diesel engine than a 500Hp V8.
Features
The Mi-8MTV2's core task of “go to place; drop off stuff” is readily apparent when looking at its feature list:
- Five different radios (R-863 VHF, R-828 FM, YaDRO-1A HF, ARK-9, ARK-UD), most of which are used for direction-finding and homing rather than for communication.
- DISS-15 doppler navigation and hover/drift indication.
- A subtly competent autopilot.
- Semi-automated cargo slinging, including a special cargo view to spot your pick-up and drop-off point.
- Roughly four bajillion circuit-breaker switches.
- Enough panels and things to monitor to occupy a crew of three (pilot, co-pilot, flight engineer), but no way of multi-crewing it so you have to manage it all by yourself.
- More rockets, grenades, and miniguns than you could possibly ever need, and also bombs and auto-cannons.
Comes with the built-in Spring Tension campaign.
Flying the Mi-8MTV2
Flying the Mi-8MTV2 can be summed up in three letters: R, P, and M. This little bird bus lives or dies by the pilot's ability to maintain a steady high RPM by not asking the engine to do too much at the same time. The two TV3 engines can deliver a lot of power but will require time to do so, and will drop RPM if they get behind the curve. Dropped RPM, in turn, means a loss of electric power from the generators, and a loss of lift from the rotors.
This loss of electricity (and consequently of powered pilot aids) and the loss of lift will easily combine into a very disorganised ride down, but the aircraft can usually power out of it if enough speed, altitude, or just plain old time is available for the engine to sort itself out. Unfortunately, such a loss of RPM usually originates from the simultaneous and numerous high demands that come from take-offs and landings — situations where speed and altitude are low, and you do not have a whole lot of time until the trees grow uncomfortably large outside the cockpit windows.
The upside is that the Mi-8MTV2 is most commonly employed from airfields where it can employ running take-offs and landings. This means it can build up speed (or not slow down) while also having to worry about maintaining altitude, which bypasses the whole problem almost entirely. Even when low speed or hover transitions are required, the airframe will give ample warning that things are about to require extra attention. It goes through a period of significant and noisy cockpit shudders at around the 80km/h IAS mark as it starts to lose translational lift — this is an unmistakable signal that some proper RPM management is required.
Cockpit overview
The first thing that usually strikes a new pilot stepping into the Mi-8MTV2 cockpit is that someone seems to have shotgunned the ceiling with circuit-braker switches — indeed, any time anyone talks about this module, it is likely the first thing that will come up.
In spite of that first impression and reputation, however, the Mi-8MTV's cockpit is very well-organised and sensibly laid out. The infamous CB:s are clustered in clear groups, and the pilot, co-pilot, and flight engineer have direct and easy access to the things they should be dealing with: the pilot controls the flight instruments and the sling-loading; the co-pilot handles navigation and communication; the flight engineer monitors engines and electrics from the centre console and the side consoles. Most of those imposing rows of switches are flipped en masse at the very beginning of the start-up procedure and then never touched again.
The one major exception is the employment of weapon systems, which is… a mess. The controls for them are still grouped, of sorts, but are still spread out to the point where all three crew members have to get involved before anything aggressive goes flying down-range. The co-pilot has to decide which pylons get the firing signal. The engineer has to make sure the systems are powered. The pilot has to select the appropriate system to fire, and set it up in a less than transparent way.
Getting into the air
Shooting something
Links and files
- Tippis' Checklist (see also kneeboard mods).
- Chuck's Mi-8MTV2 guide.
- DCS: Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight by Belsimtek in the DCS shop.
Related DCS modules
- NS 430 Navigation system for Mi-8MTV2.
- The Border Campaign for Mi-8MTV2.
- The Oilfield Campaign for Mi-8MTV2.
More information
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